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Nuclear annihilation across the globe. This is what a German reporter who successfully embedded with the Islamic State says the terror group is planning. Jurgen Todenhofer released his findings in a book titled “Inside IS - Ten Days in the Islamic State,” reports the UK’s Daily Express.

 

“The terrorists plan on killing several hundred million people. The west is drastically underestimating the power of ISIS. ISIS intends to get its hands on nuclear weapons,” says Todenhofer, calling the group a “nuclear tsunami preparing the largest religious cleansing in history.”

 

“They now control land greater in size than the United Kingdom and are supported by an almost ecstatic enthusiasm the like of which I’ve never encountered before in a war zone. Every day hundreds of willing fighters from all over the world come. They are the most brutal and most dangerous enemy I have ever seen in my life. I don’t see anyone who has a real chance to stop them. Only Arabs can stop IS. I came back very pessimistic.”

 

With the ink not yet dry on the “Iran nuclear deal,” Middle Eastern states opposed to Persian domination of the region now are actively pursuing a nuclear weapons capability of their own. President Obama’s deal could literally mean an arms race that could lead to nuclear devastation as Saudi Arabia and others look to get the bomb as well to counter Iran. With more countries obtaining nukes, the greater the possibility terrorists could obtain a weapon, which could be used to attack Israel or the West.

 

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Weps, and the Lord forbid, what are the chances these idiots get a nuclear suitcase bomb from the stock lost during the fall of the Soviet Union?

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Soooo... a terrorist group wants to get their hands on nuclear weapons?

In other news, the sun is hot today, and water is still found to be wet. Later at 6 we have the stunning new investigative report; "The Sky is Blue, Usually."

Plenty of groups have come and gone hoping to get and use nukes. Nothing to see here, move along.

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Weps, and the Lord forbid, what are the chances these idiots get a nuclear suitcase bomb from the stock lost during the fall of the Soviet Union?

 

*Sorry in advance for the long reply*

Moderately high.

 

The Soviets, even during the more exuberant financial years of the CCCP didn't have the best inventory control methods, nor did they particularly care where they stored or deployed weapons. The entire Budapest Memorandum, which is what kick started the increased NATO actions in Europe, in response to Russia annexing Crimea, was predicated on Ukraine surrendering 2,000 nuclear weapons which had been stored at various Soviet bases within the Ukraine.

In a nutshell, the US had assured Ukraine, that they and NATO would establish security measures against possible Russian aggression, in particular economic or military, from being exercised against them if they relinquished the weapons. In essence, Ukraine wanted to keep them as an ace-in-the-hole to ensure Russia didn't try to oppress them and exercise influence over them using economic and military power.

Unfortunately, we see how well that agreement held.

 

The Budapest Memorandum was a political victory, but operationally the proliferation of nuclear weapons out of Ukraine, Belarus, and Kazakhstan took nearly seven years.

In 1997, there was a massive political shitstorm when General Alexander Lebed, who had been secretary of the Russian Security Council reported to both a US Congressional Delegation visiting Moscow and during a CBS interview on "60 Minutes" that during his tenure, they could not account for some 100 or so specialized nuclear devices. Needless to say, the Russian Government quickly issued a scathing counter-report stating no such weapons have ever existed and that all weapons within Russian control where highly secured. A "special investigation" was launched and it was determined, in a short two months that no such weapons were in Russian weapon inventory and that such weapons didn't exist in Russia, but that they could not speak for inventories that had been in Ukraine, Belarus, Georgia, Kazakhstan, or other Baltic States where weapons had been stored.

Not long after, a former environmental adviser under Yeltsin in an interview, stated that he was not only familiar with those that had designed the devices, but that had most certainly been produced in large numbers during the 1970s for use by the KGB and GRU.

For contrast, the US who has superb inventory control and is extremely selective about where it stores and deploys weapons has lost 8 nuclear weapons. The US also produce a family of specialized, man-portable nuclear devices.

Now, It doesn't have to be a legitimate RA-115 (their variant of "suitcase nukes") either, just a device with the physics package intact. A physics package out of projectile or rocket artillery, unguided bomb, or missile would be plenty.

 

The Soviets, just like the US, made nuclear munitions for everything over 80mm. The Soviets, just like the US, had them stored and deployed at forward locations all over the place (and both still do). When the Union collapsed, it took a while (few days), but people realized what was going on. Entire facilities, compounds, bases, depots, installations, government buildings, armories, ect... emptied of personnel, who returned home. Lots of chaos, lots of killing, he Soviets simply just turned off the lights and locked to door at a lot of less than kosher locations.

DTRA (Defense Threat Reduction Agency), it's predecessors, and other agencies tried (and I stress "tried") to put a cohesive and collaborative effort into documenting what was found in the Union when dissolution was officiated.

Some of what was found was monstrously disturbing, such as labs and facilities used to torture, experiment, test, and explore. The Soviets had big research efforts into extraterrestrials, though reform, bioengineering, genetics, and even magic. Stockpiles of human and animal remains, bodily parts and fluids, disturbing literature, mutated biological, spliced creatures, dungeons, ect...

I say "was found", because over time the Soviets would simply fill in a facility, move it, or simply just stop their activities. Record keeping if it managed to survive the collapse, was abysmal, if kept at all. To this day, DTRA (and like agencies) are still investigating and filling in bunkers, bases, facilities, installations, depots, ect... all over the Baltics.

We also have no idea who the KGB or GRU provided various weapons to. It's widely known they worked with fringe extremist groups like the PLO and East German Red Army Faction.

 

 

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Now, you also have countries like North Korea, Iran, and Pakistan who are all known to support terrorist groups and have nuclear capabilities.

Then, there are places like South Africa, who developed nuclear weapons, but eventually dismantled their stockpiles in accordance with various treaties.

Obtaining nuclear weapons or materials isn't the hard part, it's their use that is. Lots comes into play, such as the amount of weapons you have, if you've got one you don't want to blow your load in possibly loosing it during a random security check trying to enter the target nation or waste it on a soon forgotten, single, mediocre attempt to publicly bring an ideological statement to the forefront of the international community. You want to acquire as many as you possible, bide you time and use them during a time of chaos to draw out the ideological statement over time, keep it in eyes of the public through the use of fear.

Another factor is post-attack signature tracing. The US has spent SERIOUS bones over the past 50 years in it's developing of not only WMDs, but tracking, tracing, and detecting them. The US has maintained a small fleet of aircraft with the ability to detect trace amounts of nuclear material in the atmosphere. Something like the North Korean nuclear tests would be a good target for such an aircraft, picking up trace of the tested materials, cataloging their various signature isotopes and elements, then storing the data for other uses...such as cross-matching after a possible nuclear terrorist attack on a US asset. Now, you can tried to hide the isotope signature of a device by adding additional isotopic elements such as deuterium, tritium, uranium ore, beryllium, various salts, ect...

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In closing I'll say this, we he general public have not a single clue where ISIS came from. We're told it's an offshoot of Al Qaeda/Taliban that was formed in the vacuum after Al Qaeda/Taliban left, which is interesting because Al Qaeda/Taliban never really left they just moved their command structure to neighboring Pakistan and then started funnelling fighters over via Torra Borra, Korngal, ect....

Their forming isn't all that clear either, unlike the Al Nusra Front which is a well known and documented offshoot of Al Qaeda. ISIS just sort of cropped up one day out of the blue.

Are we to believe that this one simply just slipped through the cracks for our and the international intelligence community? I'm not eluding that they're a specifically CIA created and trained group (like the Taliban was), but the US has been dumping metric fucktons of weapons, matériel, munitions, and training to help the Free Syrian Army and other Syrian “rebel groups” in an effort to domestically overthrow Assad. (Something that would infuriate Russia).

So, there is a HUGE possibility the US Government has been providing support to groups that it saw fighting Assad, but may also be extremists our forces had been fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan. Which may explain this sudden development of a well train, well armed, well funded, and brutal extremist group that's been on a religious purge of the Middle-East and is looking to go Pro.

Also, keep in mind that Russia, China, Iran, Iraq, ect... are also in an active coalition to combat ISIS, but the US has turned down the offers to join that coalition.

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Some of what was found was monstrously disturbing, such as labs and facilities used to torture, experiment, test, and explore. The Soviets had big research efforts into extraterrestrials, though reform, bioengineering, genetics, and even magic. Stockpiles of human and animal remains, bodily parts and fluids, disturbing literature, mutated biological, spliced creatures, dungeons, ect...

 

Truly, I'm grateful for living in the U.S. of A. God damn the Soviet Union to the lowest pits of hell. And the liberals cheer for it's return. Hell, even Bernie "Big Gubmint" Sanders spent some time in the Soviet Union.

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Truly, I'm grateful for living in the U.S. of A.

Ha. Hahaha. Yeah.

 

Numerous human radiation experiments have been performed in the United States, many of which were funded by various U.S. government agencies[3] such as the United States Department of Defense and the United States Atomic Energy Commission. Experiments included, but were not limited to:

  • feeding radioactive material to mentally disabled children[4]
  • exposing U.S. soldiers and prisoners to high levels of radiation[4]
  • irradiating the testicles of prisoners, which caused severe birth defects[4]
  • exhuming bodies from graveyards to test them for radiation (without the consent of the families of the deceased)[5]
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...The policy led almost immediately to the release of over 1.6 million pages of classified records. The records made clear that since the 1940s the Atomic Energy Commission had been sponsoring tests on the effects of radiation on the human body. American citizens who had checked into hospitals for a variety of ailments were secretly injected with varying amounts of plutonium and other radioactive materials without their knowledge. Ebb Cade was an unwilling participant in medical experiments that involved injection of 4.7 micrograms of Plutonium on 10 April 1945 at Oak Ridge, Tennessee.[7][8] This experiment was under the supervision of Harold Hodge.[9] Most patients thought it was "just another injection," but the secret studies left enough radioactive material in many of the patients' bodies to induce life-threatening conditions. Such experiments were not limited to hospital patients, but included other populations such as those set out above, e.g., orphans fed irradiated milk, children injected with radioactive materials, prisoners in Washington and Oregon state prisons. Much of the experimentation was carried out in order to assess how the human body metabolizes radioactive materials, information that could be used by the Departments of Energy and Defense in Cold War defense/attack planning.

The only reason you think America is morally superior is because you live in America. Propaganda is real, it's not something from your history book.

If you want to lose faith in the Good Ol' U S of A, read this;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States

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Ha. Hahaha. Yeah.

 

The only reason you think America is morally superior is because you live in America. Propaganda is real, it's not something from your history book.

If you want to lose faith in the Good Ol' U S of A, read this;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States

 

 

this just in, no government is a "good guy" and they all dabble in fucked up shit

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Ha. Hahaha. Yeah.

 

The only reason you think America is morally superior is because you live in America. Propaganda is real, it's not something from your history book.

If you want to lose faith in the Good Ol' U S of A, read this;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States

 

Most of that Wiki page doesn't even scratch the surface of what the US Government has done or does.

The US has no moral or ethical ground to stand on when it comes to government atrocity, but it's a far cry from the Soviet Union.

 

America isn't just a country, it's an idea. An idea that needs to be fostered and cared for, it's an idea that has all, but been forgotten about because greed, power, sleaze, corruption, and ignorance.

The Soviet Union was suppose to be the same, but the Bolsheviks won out because they had all the power. Power is not taken, it's given.

 

The Bolsheviks just talked a good game, just like Hitler. Hitler was given power because he spoke in beer halls and union shops, places the average working German would congregate. After the collapse of the Weimar and the lost of the First World War, what he was saying sounded pretty good to them...a strong Germany, a stable Germany, a rich Germany, a nationally unified Germany. Prior to the breakout of the second war, Germany was rocketing back to the top economically, but then things got real ugly when Hitler started blaming Germany's woes on it's Jewish citizens. Travel was heavily restricted, The SA was turned into a personality cult, the Gestapo was formed to tackle dissenters, Jews, and other social/political "undesirables", the Reichwehr and Wehrmacht officer corps' were purged of non-party members, the SS was made into a separate branch controlled directly by Hitler via Himmler, eventually Hitler abolished the Chancellorship and named himself "Fuhrer".

Similar occurrences took place after the August Elections and October Revolution in 1917, the Petrograd Soviet was eventually majority controlled by Bolsheviks after the failures of the Provisional Government and the mass exodus of Mensheviks from the Soviet ensured that majority. After the heat died down, only a handful of party heads retuned to Russia, chief among them was Trotsky...a hardcore Bolshevik. What is interesting, even during the majority control of the Soviet by the Mensheviks, "peasant representatives" where not present, just military, union, government, economic, ect... this was doubled down on by the Bolsheviks.

What makes the US different is that it was founded on ideas that instilled the individual right, truly gave the power to the people, and ensured the adherence of government to the people's will by forming a Constitution and Bill of Rights, that limited government control.

The US has become what it is, because it's been allowed to. People are too scared of losing their lives, what they've worked for, being labelled and rightfully so, but it's not complacency that keeps the wolf from the door, it's sacrifice.

So, yes the US is a corrupt cesspool, but it didn't get that way on it's own.

Not a day goes by that I'm not grateful to have been lucky enough to be born in the US. It could have just as easily been the Soviet Union, or Somalia, or Iran, or any other number of countries that make people conform to an ideology or lifestyle. 

 

Sure, some other Western countries are "free", but the cost to their individual rights has been heavy...often in the name of public safety. The US has been on that path for a while and I don't see it changing.

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