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4 hours ago, Enclusion said:

At what point does it stop mattering how many nukes a country has? If a country has 100 nuclear weapons that can all be quickly deployed how is that different than if they have 200? I don't understand this.

Influence (coercion), power and limiting the long-term effects of post-nuclear war. It's holding a gun to the world's head to cave into demands or face destruction, and extremely dangerous with countries who are extremely trigger happy. My personal belief is no one should have them, just because of the long-term effects it causes on the planet post-war (if there's even anything left to salvage). We do not face an external threat other than ourselves to warrant their use. It's a political tool and in worst-case scenario, pulling the trigger and destroying everyone, along with yourself, as last-resort. It's a cop-out. Basically saying "if I can't have it, neither can you!"

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5 hours ago, Enclusion said:

At what point does it stop mattering how many nukes a country has? If a country has 100 nuclear weapons that can all be quickly deployed how is that different than if they have 200? I don't understand this.

Unfortunately, nukes are what get you a seat at the big boy table of global politics. That's almost the only reason anybody takes North Korea seriously. And the more you have is just a bigger flex with your bigger dick.

 

It's even worse the more nukes someone has because they have a tendency to disappear. During the Cold War the US had a nuke on a plane in the air at all times. 24/7. It's astonishing how many nukes we lost and to this day 6 of them were never found. They literally just fell off of planes into the ocean. Also, when the Soviet Union fell it's unclear how many suitcase nukes just disappeared into the woodwork and were never accounted for.

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I would highly recommend watching these videos. A lot of it is speculation, but it's solid information based on trends and historical data, and sets the tone of what China's ambitions are for the Pacific and Indian oceans.

 

China’s navy is tipping the balance

China could invade Taiwan by 2027

 

Some key points to take here is that this would solidify China's hold on their territorial ambitions in the first island chain after securing Taiwan. From there, they can project power over shipping and global economy in and out of China, and surrounding nations, as well as secure their own borders (due to historical losses from sea-based attacks). Their land-based area of denial systems (as well as long-range ballistic missile capability) is meant to deter western nations from interfering with China's goals in projecting their sphere of influence. It's all power play. 

 

This also ties into what Russia wants with expanding its borders prior to the Soviet Union collapse, but we will soon see that China and Russia's ambitions will collide in Eurasia/Middle East. So far Russia has tried to spark ethnic conflicts in countries it wants to control under its sphere of influence, but that has backfired as those countries realized what Russia was doing and dragged NATO countries and others into the mix. 

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On 4/14/2021 at 9:15 AM, Solaris said:

Totally not a threat.

 

Russia warns U.S. to stay away from Ukraine for its "own good" (msn.com)

 

This is also a good overview of the climate in Ukraine and why Russia is moving assets into Crimea. Without water, they can't farm, their citizens can't drink and their military bases can't function, which is a huge disadvantage to them in the Black Sea. 

 

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On 2/24/2022 at 11:38 PM, Enclusion said:

We meet again :(

One of the first objectives they went after was destroying the dams controlling the flow of water to Crimea. Not 100% successful down the entirety of the river, but still one of their primary targets. 


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