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The gaming company decision that may have changed the next 15 years of gaming entirely?

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THIS THREAD IS SHIT.

 

 

This is all random guessing and speculation on my part, please correct me if there's any major oversight I may have missed.

 

 

 

Well we've made it here, we're in 2015 and gaming isn't dead yet. So I decided to think back onto some old games and whatnot,

but then something popped into my head. Is this all currently possible thanks to one company's decision to "Pull out"?

I'm not normally one to talk when it comes to things like this or rather large-scale theories, but this is one that hits close to home for me.

 

Let's just jump back to the 90s for a minute here, a time before the Playstation 1 and Nintendo 64. Sony and Nintendo were working together

on a project for a new console (Or rather, an extension of an existing one.) The project was to create a new system using Discs instead of

the current common Cartridge system Nintendo was familiar to using. But of course as the story goes, Nintendo pulls out of the project

to stick with their cartridge base, thus the Nintendo 64 was born. Sony kept the plans of this disc based gaming machine and here we have

the two saviors of gaming, the Playstation 1, and the Nintendo 64.

 

But what if Nintendo didn't call a cut and continued on with the project? What if this one unified console using a disc was under

Nintendo's control? How much would it really change on a scale from past to present? I mean it doesn't seem like a lot, does it? right?

 

Well, here's a list I've compiled of some differences we'd see in our current gaming industry if Nintendo went through with the console.

Feel free to add or correct me on anything in this list.

 

-Xbox would have never been made (Direct response to the PS2)
-Call of Duty would not be as famous as it currently is
-Unreal Tournament could have been dismissed as a Quake clone and died off.
-Halo Combat Evolved would have been released on mac in it's "pre-xbox" form and flopped. (Oh god where would we all be now? Would this forum exist?)
-Every Playstation/PS2/PS3 exclusive would have failed or not existed.
-Every Xbox/360 exclusive would have either failed or not existed.
-Due to Microsoft not entering the gaming market, the top two leading companies could have been Nintendo and SEGA.
-It is highly likely Minecraft would have never existed.
-The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind, would have never finished production, either that or it wouldn't have sold enough to make TES IV: Oblivion
-Half Life has a high chance of becoming known as the #1 FPS game
-Apple would have either immediately flunked out of the market or became a monopoly faster than it already has
-Iraq would have never imported 4,000 PS2 units that may or may have not been used to make a missile guidance system
-Insomniac would have become a company solely making Quake Engine Modifications
-Naughty Dog would have still become best friends with Insomniac making Quake Engine Modifications.
-Spyro the Dragon, Crash Bandicoot, Ratchet and Clank, Jak & Daxter, and Sly Cooper games would have never existed
-Burnout would have either never existed or failed immediately.
-Grand Theft Auto would end up being a PC exclusive for all titles due to Nintendo and SEGA's previously family-friendly preference.
-Mass Effect would not exist

 

 

(Honestly I'm glad Nintendo did what they did after thinking of all these things that might have happened just from the PS1 not existing.)

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Tiddy-bits:

sounds like PC would be a lot better off and wouldn't be dismissed as "hurr durr pc mastur race waving their pc dicks again" as much

it's like people don't get what "objectively more powerful and versatile" means

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It's crazy to think about all the seemingly small decisions at the time, which dramatically changed the course of history, but that's more often a thought about an individuals story.

 

Though one thing on that list doesn't quite make sense to me; why is it likely that Minecraft would have never existed in this scenario? It was doing great on PC before it was ported.


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Though one thing on that list doesn't quite make sense to me; why is it likely that Minecraft would have never existed in this scenario? It was doing great on PC before it was ported.

Again, pure speculation. I imagine that the origins of Minecraft (Or it's original engine it was based from) would have not existed. The open-world genre only opened up because of the general theme in games catching on, which is what got the game it's fame.

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Woah, woah, woah, woah, I'm not entirely getting a lot of your points here.

 

-Unreal Tournament could have been dismissed as a Quake clone and died off.

How do consoles affect this!? The Championship series wasn't even that incredibly popular

 

-Halo Combat Evolved would have been released on mac in it's "pre-xbox" form and flopped. (Oh god where would we all be now? Would this forum exist?)

First off, everyone forgets it was going to be PC and Mac. Bungie didn't develop just for Mac since they ported... I believe Marathon 2(?) to PC in 1995.

 

-Every Xbox/360 exclusive would have either failed or not existed.

No basis for them failing. Probably would have just been developed on other systems.

 

-Due to Microsoft not entering the gaming market, the top two leading companies could have been Nintendo and SEGA.

Assuming Sega would have still never gone belly up. Also assuming no other company would have entered the market where there was a lot of demand for it.

 

-It is highly likely Minecraft would have never existed.

... What!? Why?

 

-Half Life has a high chance of becoming known as the #1 FPS game

I think it's pretty much accepted as this already in a large amount of circles.

 

-Apple would have either immediately flunked out of the market or became a monopoly faster than it already has

Apple tried to enter the console market with the Pippin and failed horribly before this. Steve Jobs basically said "Never again."

 

-Burnout would have either never existed or failed immediately.

Why would it have failed on another system?


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Again, pure speculation. I imagine that the origins of Minecraft (Or it's original engine it was based from) would have not existed. The open-world genre only opened up because of the general theme in games catching on, which is what got the game it's fame.

Open world genre has been very popular for a very long time. In fact, the origins of the idea for Minecraft are very old. It's baseless to think that for some reason there would be no Minecraft. If there is any argument to support that type of thought, it would support the notion that no game that exists today in its current form would probably exist which is probably true.
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Again, pure speculation. I imagine that the origins of Minecraft (Or it's original engine it was based from) would have not existed. The open-world genre only opened up because of the general theme in games catching on, which is what got the game it's fame.

wasn't minecraft inspired by dwarf fortress and some other games? i get the feeling it would still be around

actually, i honestly think everything in the games industry is so relative to everything else that this scenario would be completely unguessable. we're speculating based on products and trends that happened because of what we're speculating as having changed

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Like I said before, I'm not the kind of person who is really good at gathering 100% solid information, I was using the word speculation very literally.

 

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UT - It was, from what I know, more popular in the console community

Halo - I was referring more to the pre-xbox version, not so much the mac OS part.

Xbox games - More than likely, but a lot of companies were hired to make their existing games for the Xbox, not by choice. Kind of like how Microsoft extended an offer to Bungie with Halo 1.

Nintendo and Sega - I was thinking along the lines of SEGA because they seem to have a very.. "healthy" fangroup following them. I imagine some smaller companies might start popping up and dying like we saw in the PS1/PS2 eras.

Minecraft - This is a subject I know little about, I just play the game and know the basics of it's origin. Like I was saying before feel free to correct me if I have any wrong information.

Burnout - I had the later games in mind in specific, such as Burnout Revenge. These games had a heavy usage on the console's ability for it's time and had a slowdown in some situations.

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I understand what you're saying about the direct results but you're getting into secondary and tertiary results: there would be no PS1 (source) so there would be no PS2 (direct result) so there would be no Xbox (secondary result) so Halo would release on the Mac (tertiary result). I think only the direct results can be said for sure. For instance if the Xbox didn't exist then there easily could have been another console of the same power instead; maybe Halo 1 gets released on it? And besides, Microsoft probably still would have made their first console starting in that generation, since it's not like there wouldn't be a console from Sony at the PS2 level at all, it would just be in cooperation with Nintendo and be a sequel to their first joint console.


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Like I said before, I'm not the kind of person who is really good at gathering 100% solid information, I was using the word speculation very literally.

I know. That's why I'm discussing it with you.

 

UT - It was, from what I know, more popular in the console community

lolno. You'd be incorrect, sir. Very, very, very incorrect.

 

Halo - I was referring more to the pre-xbox version, not so much the mac OS part.

You said it would be Mac. Going by what you said.

 

Xbox games - More than likely, but a lot of companies were hired to make their existing games for the Xbox, not by choice. Kind of like how Microsoft extended an offer to Bungie with Halo 1.

So they would still exist on their respective platforms. Why would that mean they would likely fail?

 

Nintendo and Sega - I was thinking along the lines of SEGA because they seem to have a very.. "healthy" fangroup following them. I imagine some smaller companies might start popping up and dying like we saw in the PS1/PS2 eras.

They failed with that healthy fan group at their backs. They would probably still have without the competition from Sony.

 

Burnout - I had the later games in mind in specific, such as Burnout Revenge. These games had a heavy usage on the console's ability for it's time and had a slowdown in some situations.

They would have probably just found another way to pull it off *shrugs*


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I don't think that Microsoft would have never gotten into the market, I just think that the Xbox may have came around a little bit later than it did.  They may have started at the 360, and quite possibly could have really been the runt of the litter due to being late into the generation and as a result there probably wouldn't be as many multiplat games on the 360, and overall it may not have done as well.  Just my two cents, since we're all having fun speculating here.

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